eBay vs. eBan ???

Combat Relics · Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 149

I see eBay being referenced as eban on the other larger online forum that so many people are on.

I started to wonder why they were using eBan to refer to eBay. Could it be fear of the mindless monster that ebay is, and its army of lawyers? Could they be worrying that they can be destroyed by the power of the megalomaniacal international megacorporate beast?

Or is it simply a way to hurl an insult back, after the ban on selling legal third reich relics at that site was enacted, and threw so many people's plans and work into the crapper?

Whatever the reason is, a great many of them continue to search that site and post links to objects for sale there.

sodak222 · Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 13

The reason people call it eban is because about 90% of all WW2 items get cancelled thanks to the snitches which we call the ebay gestapo. List something on there with a swastika and see how long it takes for the rats to get it booted. This is the truth!
Rod

jasonr104 · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Toronto Ontario

I buy some items off ebay and every once in awhile you find a merit cross for sale or something. Usually the seller adds a red dot over the swastika to block it from view. Also i have seen some people sell tickets that entitle them to the ownership of an eBay banned item. Example: You sell a ticket to an iron cross so the bidder is buying this ticket and not the item. You just post pictures of the item and provide a link to them.

sodak222 · Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 13

I have never heard of that strategy before but don't worry some eban gestapo snitch would find out about it and then they would start cancelling the tickets! What I can't figure out is why does ebay have a WW2 German catagory if they don't allow the stuff to be sold? What do they think they are going to find in that catagory?
Rod

jasonr104 · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Toronto Ontario

i know they do list 1957 remakes. A dealer i buy medals from sells 1957 legal version knights crosses with the letter from the company that makes them (Steinhuck or something). But they are not period items or anything. Just legal versions that were probably made somewhat recently. They look nice and all but they sell for $280. I dont see why you would buy a 1957 legal version for so much.

sodak222 · Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 13

Myself I would not want to own a 1957 version of the award. If I can't find the real thing I would rather go without!
Rod

jasonr104 · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Toronto Ontario

Im not a big fan of altering history because a symbol was given an offensive meaning by facist government. I just think banning the swastika and everything has gone a bit overboard. I had to explain to someone why i had a woundbadge with a swastika and that i collect militaria.

sodak222 · Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 13

I do the same thing with my neighbors when I take pictures of my big flags and aslo my daggers. I explain to them that I just collect this stuff because of history and the value of it.
Rod

Combat Relics · Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 149

eBay...The subject brings bile to the back of the throat of anyone who has had to deal with them.
They continue to bludgeon their path across society.
In the past they were about connecting the common man with a buyer for items no longer wanted.
They were a host for the listing ad of the item offered and a mechanism for the two parties to get together.
NO LONGER!

eBay today, has little resemblance to the company of yesteryear.
This CORPORATION is now about hosting businesses, which sell massive numbers of widgets and geegaws, for dirt cheap to lazy, needy, bitchy consumers.
The larger the number of transactions, the more the number and amounts of fees.

They made huge mistakes which ended up affecting their profits and alienated sellers. They needed to lure back the lost sellers or find a way to make the company profitible again. Instead of remodeling the site to accommodate the sellers, (who pay all the income of eBay), they chose to make the site to a 'Safe' corporate model for commerce.

In other words an online K-Mart, Wal-Mart, or Target retail site where the corporation has no risk, no inventory costs, no inventory taxes etc.

Constant implementation of features, fees and rules has created a platform that is nothing more than that.
A seller gets to pay them for shelf space and advertising etc. but the little guy has no place in this grand design..

The little guy or Mom and Pop shop, is required to operate to the standard of a small corporation. Now every facet of the transaction is seen as an opportunity for eBay to achieve another revenue stream.

The perfect example is the new requirement to use PAYPAL or other fee based payment systems, to receive payment for an sale accomplished using that eBay.

More fear mongering was the excuse. They are going to make it easier for the consumer to pay (Because he is a lazy spoiled cheapskate and incurs no fees when he uses paypal)
Oh, These things will stop all the fraud! Right!

And making bad feedback for bad buyers a thing of the past? Well there are no bad customers, just bad sellers.

And restricting your ability to sell if you fall below 4 stars in any category of seller ratings? One question, WHO IN HELL Is happy with shipping time or costs? Nobody on earth! DUH!

Now they want the sellers to absorb the cost of shipping? They offer you virtually nothing to give the lazy cheapskate buyer FREE SHIPPING?!

F*** EBAY IN THEIR *$$ is all I have to say. What they dished out , so shall they RECEIVE. Do Not Support CORPORATE ROBBERY!

Want some Chinese MADE crescent wrenches or telephones? Well you can get those anywhere, and ebay is headed to be just another anywhere like the rest of them.

Gone is the excitement that strange and wonderful things will appear on ebay.

The best things are going to market in other ways. The live local auction is reborn. Shops and Shows are full of quality goods again. The world of unique stuff is running away from ebay as their selling venue.

This is the first site to show up online of its type. I have seen the amount of militaria offered here, grow tenfold over a very short time.

Many great items have been sold and found here. Many site members have made great friends, and found a place where fresh militaria finds can constantly be accessed and acquired.

It is time for more CHANGE! We need to boycott eBay totally. Who needs an online Wal-Mart?

The Thicket · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 86 Location: Right Here.

CR, words well woven, as a matter of fact it sums up ebay's rhetoric with a nice Big Red Bow! Look at ebays stock, its dorpped like a rock, over the last 30 weeks, thats pre market correction of October 2008.

Lets be straight about this, ebay is nothing but a LEACH on everyone that uses it. Buyers that are over grown Butt Heads are the only ones that seem to have a happy face on that sight, why they can act like the rotten slime they are, and get away with it.

A - Clear example of what Dults are on ebay now - I sold a set of Pickups noted as an EPIPHONE Explorer Zebra style PAFS back in July 08, they sold for the massive sum of $15.00 plus $5.50 postage.

I used the tilte; Epiphone 1998 Zebra PAF style pickups, As in not real PAF'S, if there were real and in the ZEBRA format, I could sell them for not $20.00 total, but more in line with $10,000.00 - and the buyer would have been so happy to pay that amount that they would have kissed my butt to do so.

Yet after a threat on my life from a wacked out buyer that paid $20.00 total for just what was shown in 5 pictures, and well explained words that explained what these pickups came off and what they could be used for, by the way the auction started at $9.99. I sold a set of REAL Zebra PAF'S on ebay in 2001 for $8000.00.

We got a nasty feed back from this dult, plus a warning email from ebay about not explaining what we were selling to the standard that they felt was in order.
What I asked what was the proper method to sell an item that was in all respects new, was clearly pictured as what it was, was clearly stated to be just what it was.

Ebays responce was: We needed to take a class given by ebay to better understand what we were doing. So we could be better sellers, perhaps if we offered free postage the problem would have not happened.

I ask you where is it written that a dult is allowed to discredit you for their stupidity? Well the answer is, EBAY!

May they go down in flames! I agree 100% don't use ebay, don't even look at ebay.
By the way the new owner claims he has his MBA, he knows far more about business than anyone who sells on ebay, so let him eat the crap buger he has cooked up.

Buy the way note that the sales on ebay are dropping like a rock on water. Listing have droped off by what ebay even stated 35% over the last 20 weeks. I think the number is closer to 55% and still dropping. In 2000 ebay had 1 million listings per day, now its not even 1 million per month. Soon it will be less than 1 million per decade.
Man, I got get an MBA soon so I can learn how to make money like that!

By the way we got a call last week from an ebay rep asking why we have not listing anything, when I asked if they really wanted to know, the answer the responce was perhaps we should sign up for an ebay selling class. I asked them to stop calling us at that point.

Combat Relics · Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 149

Hey Thicket,
I TOO! got that call. From 1999 to 2008, they never once bothered to try and offer me service, or a human to talk to about any issue.

Their inconsistent, undeciferable policies, and incompetent employees, caused utter chaos to my life, while I was trying to responsibly run thousands of listings.

Suddenly when the Excrement hit the airflow, they profess to care!
Of course they still go forward with their corporate agenda to charge more fees by forcing the use of fee based pay services.

The mindset of eBay...
Stifle communication between site members.
Exploit any possible manner to extract more fees.
Force ever more draconian rules upon the sellers.
Make people fear and mistrust each other.
Pander to buyers completely, give them a free rein.

That call pissed me off so much, I canceled plans to sell several hundred items I had already photographed.

Like many thousands of other eBay haters, I am willing to forego the income, in order to hasten their destruction or instability.

So 'Martin Lewis' (Rapu Patel of Lahore Pakistan), you can quit sending me pre-written (canned email) forms, to guide me on how to pay your glorious corporate masters more fees and work harder for less return.

SCREW EBAY BEFORE THEY SCREW YOU! JUST SAY NOOOOO!

Combat Relics · Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 149

Suppose they might be misjudging how much they can abuse us?
Look at this link!

http://www.motleyfool.idmanagedsolutions.com/stocks/advanced_chart.idms?SYMBOL_US=EBAY

Looks like they may bottom out!

Quick everybody! Paypal them a big amount to save them!

The Thicket · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 86 Location: Right Here.

Saddly the amount of money lost in stocks effects the poor folks that thought wow, what a great idea invest in a company that at one point in time had a value of $95.00 per share.
So they Bought in at $40.00 and thought it will not be long before that expandes into real wealth! After all they have a wizzard at the helm.

I bet they are kicking themselfs now, at just $14.31 per share its gone backwards. Could it be the MBA?

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Combat Relics · Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 149

If you cannot touch it, your investments are out of your control.
If your money is in your collection, or other tangible items you carefully chose, your worth is pretty much in your own hands.

You have the ability to select what you wanted to posses, instead of the money which you spent (Dollars that seem on a steady and never ending decline in purchasing value!)

Your agenda determines which objects you have faith in the value of.
Also, your projected value performance can be predicted somewhat because you are informed.

Sure, you might lose your value if some factor intervenes. Even Gold crashes periodically. (Gotta ask yourself why that occurs!)

But in most serious antiques and collectible categories, the gold and silver era (or top 5-10% of that category) seems to be pretty stable and bulletproof.
Actually rare items are ACTUALLY RARE!
Items which have intense interest remain in demand.
They will be sought, and nobody wants to sell them cheap for currencies which are actually losing value continuously!

Regarding the value of investments in the stock of corporations.
People should ask themselves questions when thinking about how to invest their hard earned dollars.

1. Why would a huge corporation, listed on the stock exchange, need all the little revenue streams from individuals? After all they have all the credit they need to perform buy outs of other corporations!

2. Why do the mega rich encourage you to partner with them in their company? Are they beneficent in nature? Do they really want to share the wealth with you?

3, Exactly why would you trust a company with your money when the operational model of the corporate agenda is Piracy and War?

4. Would you really hire the leaders of industry to run YOUR company? They have already shown you they are the biggest crooks, thieves, and liars in history.

The answer is, that the rich and powerful exploit everyone. They employ every mechanism and every asset, to rob you of everything they can. Their agenda is simple.. 'MORE until ALL' .

No amount of BILLIONS, is enough. No morals, no philosophy, no humanity,.. just pure greed for power.
Never ending expansion, a McDonalds on every corner. Then a McDonalds in every home. Then a McDonalds in every room. Sound ridiculous? How many phones do you have in your family? How many TVs?

How many hours of quality discussion, do you have each week with friends about the state of the planet and our culture? None? Do you have spare time anymore? Do you?

Do you think that is odd? Or accidental?

They use advertising and media, to set you up to worship them. They use the power of psychology to influence your thinking. Eventually their never ending mantra replaces actual rational thought. Since birth the majority of Americans have been drowning in propaganda. We have become a nation of CONSUMERS, not Citizens.

Everything you see and hear is about what you need to buy to be happy, sexy, popular, powerful etc.

Once you are in that mindset, they offer you a piece of the pie. The agenda that you too can be on top.

It is a lie, and they drain your worth in every fashion when you try to get up their ladder. They will keep you very busy trying, and that my friends is a fact.

They control every aspect of society and have regulated every possible angle to bleed you dry.

Government policy is not set by accident. Those special interests you keep hearing about, and PACS, and lobbyists? Those are no minor thing, they are the specific tools, used to alter policy to suit the agenda of the owners of the wealth.

When you have extra set aside for the years when you can no longer labor, they entice you into growing it with them! Your insecurity and greed are assured by the fear of insolvency which is carefully applied to your mind. You invest because they influence you.

Periodically they plunder the financial trading markets by deliberately causing rigged 'Emergencies' and 'crisis' situations. They take their investments out of the danger zone quietly, before the problem is apparent to the common man.

They shift their investments into safe areas until the debacle plays out in the targeted sector (this time it was real estate, banking, Mortgages ...) Their fuel investments paid off handsomely (record profits) until the world economy almost died.

Congress of course has no choice but to bail out the holy corporations (BANKS! INSURANCE COMPANIES! THE AUTO INDUSTRY!)
With money they do not even have (Can you say 'the money is already spent with other corporations who are involved in supplying military materiel to the war machine'?)

I am guessing those petrodollars are flowing into distressed and under valued assets as you read this.
They ride out the trouble uninvolved, and solvent, to reinvest in the same assets at pennies on the dollar (after having engineered a looting of the public funds in the treasury ... just as in the recent bailout of the corporations)

They have an agenda. It is called class warfare. If you believe media owned by corporations, and content engineered by corporate think tanks to control your thought making processes, you are a victim.

Since birth you have been programmed by TV and the popular culture. You are a product of your environment. It is no accident that you think as you do.

Want to know more about the true nature of the world?
It is NOT about politically right or left.
It is about what is left for PEOPLE in this world who are not wealthy or powerful.
Are you CERTAIN you really WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3543161691381895251

Now, you can choose to go forward believing the gibberish you are spoon fed, or you can search for truth.

You can choose, not to stagnate..............

DO SO NOW.

http://vodpod.com/watch/1069985-u-s-army-prepares-to-invade-u-s-

http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/23/clergy-response-teams-to-help-undermine-liberty/

Treue Fest · Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 4

Very good Combat Relics! Some excellent and valid points and well written!

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