Ebay sucks

ccdiecast · Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 13

I had a very nice and pristine Luftschutz helmet on Ebay. I followed the rules and did not post a picture of the "offensive logo" This helmet is very nice and the bid was $385.oo. Some yahoo asked me for a photo of the emblem and stupid me sent it. Within 5 minutes my listing was removed. The turd then offered me $100 for the helmet. Now if I list it he uses the same photo to have it removed. He only waits for the listig to go beyond $300 and then "Pooof" Ebayers beware and do not offer extra photo's to ayone.

alfalfa · Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 11

why put it on ebay in the first place? almost everything they have in the Nazi stuff is fake and only bikers and freeks are looking there. They have enough business selling all the other crap people list. if you knew about this site why didn't you offer it to us real collectors?

ccdiecast · Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 13

The listings were done prior to me finding this site and the folks I am selling it for need the money. This helmet is certainly no fake and I am not out to cater to bikers and freaks so the message you are sending seems a little punishing don't you think? Now that I have found this site all of their items will be listed here for the true collectors.

alfalfa · Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 11

Glad to hear it. Welcome!

piper · Joined: 13 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

Now I see what you all mean about ebay. I posted some medals the other day with pics. They just pulled them from the auction and sent me an email threatening to cut me off. It looks like they think that a swastika is some magic symbol that will put the mojo on anyone who sees it. I've never tried selling on this site, maybe I should?

wyatt265 · Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 6

There is a very high level of inconsistancy on Ebay. I listed a repro spring pattern SS skull , only the skull. I advertised it as a repro. No swastica to be seen. they pulled it. I protested, and got the pre-written line of offensive bull. Then a week later. Some one else lists one and it stays. Then one of the really big dealers lists a pith helmet showing both sheilds and it stays. I have seen other helmets pulled because they have both sheilds showing ...... go figure. I guess it's just a matter of who is floor monitor that day.

Combat Relics · Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 161

OK, years of work there, and thousands of listings on that site, and I have a personal insight, and opinion to share.

If you love sitting on eBay for half your life and dealing with it, stop reading now because I am no fan of eBay.

A friend once had over 200 listings ended for a single swastika showing on one WW2 German listing some years back.

eBay has set up fake bidder accounts to solicit info from sellers.

They contact the seller for details or photos, and then shut down your listing.

Also, after contacting a seller, buyers will often report the listing of something they want to acquire, to ebay, as being offensive and violating ebay's offensive listings policies.

As soon as ebay does them this service and ends the auction (Eliminating competition and killing the price) , the potential new owner contacts the seller with an 'I am still willing to buy it' email.

The seller often is too lazy to do the work to find another way to market the item, and sells it to the rat. Rewarding the creep for doing the damage to the seller's ebay and bank account!

These policies are so vaguely written, and so poorly worded and defined so that virtually anything can be interpreted as being in violation.

It does not help things that the people responsible for enforcing these so called 'rules', live in Pakistan or India (working for pennies an hour so ebay will not go broke)

Following the report, Sanji, Mr. Patel, or Ibrahim will declare the offense valid, and end the listing as well as select an appropriately pre-assembled and worded email to the evil seller/transgressor.

Gee, does newegg or any other website that makes a shitload of money off of us do this sort of crap? NO! Duh!

So anybody so desperate to pay fees and be abused by ebay, deserves what they get there. VOTE WITH YOUR KEYBOARD and DO NOT GO TO EBAY!

Just my position, you choose how to acquire your relics, and which corporate megalomaniacs you will support!

eindhoven · Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

[quote:4b6053d4bf="alfalfa"]why put it on ebay in the first place? almost everything they have in the Nazi stuff is fake and only bikers and freeks are looking there. They have enough business selling all the other crap people list. if you knew about this site why didn't you offer it to us real collectors?[/quote:4b6053d4bf]

That's not true. Eban does get some good items from time to time mixed in with all those 'original' German listings for At the Front repros.

Seriously, you had someone get your auction canceled to try to get a good deal or the Ebay troll hit you is all. Happens all the time.

Combat Relics · Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 161

Eindhoven,
you have categorized the eBay experience well!.....

'Eban does get some good items from time to time mixed in with all those 'original' German listings for At the Front repros.
Seriously, you had someone get your auction canceled to try to get a good deal or the Ebay troll hit you is all. Happens all the time.'

.....Exactly what I am saying...eBay is not a good experience nor a pleasant one. It does not yield good results for the effort or the cost.

Perhaps a person might have endless hours to spend on eBay trying to find a real item of any interest. The chances are they will lose the bidding anyway.

I have seen a couple of idiots get into a pissing match over some treasure and push it up to twice the retail dealer price.

The place is full of people who spend their hours as if they have no value. The experience of shopping there can be classified as anything from disappointing to extremely frustrating.

My opinion is that the hours are not worth the effort or the results. There are about 20 dealers I check with regularly. Also, there is this site which yields more good pieces per hour of effort than I have found elsewhere online.

If a shopper comes here once a month and cannot find bargains galore, guess why... They were sold !!

There are plenty of reasonably priced items and many more the seller will entertain offers on, listed on this website. Why are those objects still here?

I am guessing 3 things.

First the site is not as well known as it will become. This is already accelerating and membership is rapidly growing.

Second, some shoppers here might be used to spending their time looking for Walmart pricing. That is fine if you are satisfied with acquiring very few quality items over a long period of time, but will usually not build a fine world class collection. One thing that direct sales has in common with eBay is that once sold the item is GONE! So buying smart and fast is when you get the right item at the right price.

Third, A large percentage of the population is perceiving collecting as a hobby. They seem to approach relics as a consumer item.

I feel they could not be more wrong. It is investing, and it has always performed exceptionally well. the $20 Iron Cross 1st is now $350, and the $2 black wound badge is now $65.

Just like any other investment, you should have knowledge before investing. Also you must know when to buy and when to keep shopping.

But eBay? ...NOT FOR ME.

The Thicket · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 96 Location: Right Here.

There are in fact many not only good deals here on GMC to be found there are some down right GIVE AWAYS! For items that are really fine collectables. There is everything from common, to ULTRA RARE items one of a kind items they are all listed right here.

As well there are many items that are priced at near retail and after all if the big name dealers who by the way get thier stock from people like the ones who list here. Why should the people who list here not get near retail or retail for that matter?
Seems all well and fair to me, and if the items were yours I would bet a $100.00 and I am not a person who bets, but any of you would want FULL RETAIL TOO.

So on that note let me just add a few other points; If you think that if you hit that local estate sale, where your going to walk away with a steel of a deal. Think again....
I go to many per year not just for Nazi WW II stuff, but for other items too.

Guess what - a standard Army or Luftwaffe SD helmet sells for anywhere from - $800.00 - $1200.00 PLUS anywhere form 10-15% commission on top of these hammer droped price, -- most at best are in 70% condition, yet here on this sight you can find many REAL UNPLAYED with helmets for less in BETTER condition!
Yet they sit and wait on some one to figure that simple fact out.

I have seen a common Silver Wound Badge at an estate sale sell for $400.00 yet we have Gold Wound Badges here at, $200.00 and up to $350.00, and they are not selling. Let alone other Great Combat badges and awards medals etc.. Why is that?

At an estate sale I went to 12/29/07 a common Army dagger by Pack sold for $720.00 plus 10% commission that totals- $792.00 for a dagger in 70% or VG over all condition.. Yet here on this sight we have many daggers priced at $500.00 - $1200.00 that are in far better condtion than any I see at estate sales! try and find a real Hitler Youth Knife knife at an estate sale for under $500.00.. let alone a clean Luftwaffe 2nd dagger for under $800.00 or a Luftwaffe 1st for under $1200.00. DREAM ON.

At an estate sale I went to 10/12/07 a Army Tunic NCO Ifty. Sold for $1800.00 with 10% commission added on, it has Moth Holes all over it, tears and rips, and damage. Yet here we have countless tunics in super condition that sit and sit in far better condition. WHY?

I went to an estate sale 8/23/07 there were many Nazi flags, a Ballte flag in about VG or 70% condition sold for $750.00 + 10% that equals $825.00.
A beat to hell State service flag sold for $900.00 +10%,that equals $990.00 Yet we have many of both of these style flags in far better condition for LESS right here!

There was an estate sale I went to 11/11/07 where a small dagger collection went on the block, there were - 3 SA daggers that were all messed with. daggers sold for the following amounts PLUS 10%,
#1, $875.00 +10%
#2, $675.00 + 10% and RZM marked.
#3, $ 990.00 + 10%!
Try and find a real Early SA dagger thats unplayed with for under $800.00 at an estate sale, well that dream and $5.00 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks, BUT NO DAGGER..
What am I missing here People????

I sugest you tell your friends about this sight, tell people you meet that think they would like to buy a WW II item about this sight lets get this sight really rolling, it benifits all of us in the long run!! Can you all see the light at the end of the tunnel yet??

Ebay has been dead for years..

Combat Relics · Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 161

I am lucky. The local estate sale people fall into two categories.

1. Antique dealer types who go online and check any old turd they have out to see what the most one is offered for. Then they mark everything at antique store prices and the local populace shows up and pays stupid prices for these things!
Now putting on an estate sale is no easy thing, but to charge as if you have retail store overhead costs to cover is ridiculous.
Also, we have dealer pals of theirs who get a crack at things first.
Needless to say I dont even go and look at their sales any longer.

2. The second type are the semi pros. They want to move it and make their cut and you can deal with them. Nobody turns up much great militaria, but it is a treasure hunt and less chance of losing than at the card table!
I do get some nice things each year and sometimes unbelievably cheap. The bargains more often come from actually asking people at their yard sale.
1/2 half to two thirds of everyone I meet in that way, who says they have relics, turn out to be bullshitting me. Still every once in a while, a treasure pops out of a basement or garage for a couple of bucks.

Those are the days that pay you back for all the driving and looking at baby clothes and tupperware laden tables on driveways!

The Thicket · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 96 Location: Right Here.

Most auctions house understand that what they get in they may not have the ability to get the highest price for.
So they farm items out, this has gone on for years.

One such example would be a High $$ art work, lets face it would the small auction house do better to sell it for $50.00, or send it to a bigger fish and sell it for $500.000.00 and get a cut of that amount? Lets face it 20% of $50.00 is only $10.00, yet 10% of $500.000.00 is $10,000.00 this is not rocket science. Plus the person who consigned the item/ items is far happer with $200.000.00 after Taxs and fees, than $40.00..

I have not found any auction houses that will out right sell anything, thats a violiation of the Auction rules of sale.
They can not only be fined, they can serve some serious time in Jail too.

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